Elon and the Border Crisis, the Case for Immigration, and the American Dream

Dan Romero and Erik Torenberg talk about the ongoing border crisis, the history of immigration to the US, and the case for and against immigration. If you’re looking for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA compliance, head to Vanta for $1000 off: https://www.vanta.com/zen

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• Coleman Hughes, A Case For Color Blindness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxB3b7fxMEA&t=0s
• US sues SpaceX: https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-sues-spacex-alleged-discrimination-against-asylees-refugees-hiring-2023-08-24/
• New York Times on the Darién Gap: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/14/world/americas/migrant-business-darien-gap.html
• Paul Graham tweets chart on the slave trade: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1707688808139968652

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TOPICS DISCUSSED:

(00:00) Episode Preview
(01:31) The American dream
(05:37) Why does Elon Musk care about what's happening at the border?
(10:44) The history of immigration in the US
(13:30) H1-B visas and temporary protected status
(18:04) Sponsors: Vanta | NetSuite
(19:37) Immigration under Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Trump
(20:02) Sponsors: Vanta & Netsuite
(24:51) No place for nuance
(28:21) Asylum seeking
(31:38) Current state: complete failure
(37:15) Arguments for and against immigration
(45:04) Polling on immigration issue
(49:01) Basic rule of law
(56:18) Fringe theory: the great replacement theory
(59:21) Dan’s proposal: voter ID
(01:03:13) Does a country have a right to determine its demographics?
(01:12:02) Do immigrants assimilate?
(01:21:39) Pro-immigration but anti gentrification
(01:25:11) Is it feasible for Balaji's gray tribe to take back San Francisco?
(01:33:20) Dan’s optimistic take on a potential deal
(01:35:31) Immigration and innovation